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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/11/2010 1:45:00 PM
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Adrenalinejunkie
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Wonder if we will see Alex's mom.
I was wondering the same thing.
How did they even get off The Island? I mean, the Oceanic survivors didn't really have anything to do with them that hindered them from leaving, did they?
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/11/2010 9:51:04 PM
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One thing that didn't make sense to me was "sideways" Ben's father mourning that he wasn't a success. Well, he got a doctorate degree, so I don't think the fact that they left the island had much to do with it. If he had a PhD he probably could have found success in the U.S. if he really tried.
Hmmm ... this is interesting. I wonder if it had something to do with the school that he went to and his major - or even his father's illness or their poverty. Remember the principal went to Yale (although I don't know too many people from Yale who would be the principal at a high school - but maybe I'm wrong) and the principal didn't really respect that. He didn't address him as Dr. - talked about how he (ben) couldn't help the young girl with the recommendations because he (ben) hadn't gone to Yale. Maybe he just went to a regular school that wasn't highly ranked because that was what he could afford. In the humanities PhD's don't always lead to higher paying jobs unfortunately - so I'm thinking that this is what happened to him. Maybe too, his father's illness tied him to one spot. It wasn't like he could do a nationwide job search like most PhD's do. That's how I saw it anyway. I'm thinking that at some point I'll watch the enhanced versions - so when I do I'm going to pay close attention to this. Now my interest is piqued!
Good point, RGod. And that's really funny -- it didn't occur to me that the principal is apparently as underemployed as Ben!  Yup, probably not too many Yale grads among high school principals these days. And that's true about PhDs in humanities not always leading to high-paying jobs. I guess his goal was to teach at the college level, but maybe like you said he was confined to one geographic area, so maybe no college openings in the area. I know I've heard of several people with their masters degrees doing clerical work in offices or working in retail simply because they couldn't find a job. So I guess his dad meant that if they'd stayed on the island Ben would have been a leader, huh? Well, I'm sure more shall be revealed because it seems like these Lost writers never let an allusion go to waste, so we'll see .... 
   
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/17/2010 6:05:10 PM
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No posts after last nights epi ?
Found it interesting that Sawyer & Miles were detectives for the LAPD.
Is that the last we will see of Charlotte ?
What did the chick say to Sawyer ? Are you ____ ?
I missed that part.
Didn't realize Ilana was Russian.
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/17/2010 6:17:37 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't have guessed that.
Will be interesting to see if Sawyer can play both sides. You'd think that the leaders would know since they know everything that goes on on the island.
i am not sure what the girl said.. maybe she said are you a cop.
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/17/2010 8:18:59 PM
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Last night's episode was, uh, interesting. I wonder who was The Black Smoke's mother...
Did anyone see the preview for next week's episode?? It shall be VERY interesting. I'm so excited!
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/17/2010 10:08:16 PM
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I usually watch on hulu, and unfortunately they don't show previews. What did it show?
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/17/2010 11:16:32 PM
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I don't remember the whole preview. It explains who Richard is and why he doesn't age though
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/17/2010 11:17:19 PM
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Richard is in the spotlight.
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/18/2010 11:15:40 PM
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OK, that was really funny!
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/24/2010 12:32:41 AM
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I was surprised Richard was from such a recent time. I thought he'd be from ancient Egypt. I had also wondered if he were the captain of The Black Rock, but I thought it would have been from the 1600s. I'm so glad Hurley got to him before "Un-Locke" did. I think Hurley will end up being the keeper of the Island. That way Jacob can still give him instructions.
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/24/2010 9:20:39 AM
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I was bothered by "good guy" Jacob's saying that the MiB (the devil) believes that all people are inherently sinful but he (Jacob) is there to prove him wrong. I really hope Jacob isn't supposed to be some Christ-like figure.
"Lost" is turning out the be "The Howling Man" episode of the original "Twilight Zone".
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/24/2010 1:24:53 PM
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I think Hurley will end up being the keeper of the Island. That way Jacob can still give him instructions.
I've been saying all along that Hurley's the key figure here. He sees and talks to the dead people, and don't forget the numbers (the NUMBERS!!) are intricately involved in his life. He actually unleashed them on the world. Hurley's the key, no doubt about it (well, okay, a LOT of doubt about it - just seems to make the most sense).
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/24/2010 1:27:38 PM
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I already thought jacob was the christ like person.
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/24/2010 1:32:33 PM
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I was bothered by "good guy" Jacob's saying that the MiB (the devil) believes that all people are inherently sinful but he (Jacob) is there to prove him wrong. I really hope Jacob isn't supposed to be some Christ-like figure.
"Lost" is turning out the be "The Howling Man" episode of the original "Twilight Zone".
I don't see them going for a strong Christian message. This is still Hollywood, don't forget. The cork in the bottle seems to be key.
Now we need answers about the Dharma Initiative, Rousseau, the numbers (the NUMBERS??!!), Charles Widmore, Desmond (where's DESMOND??), Charley, Boone and his sister what's-her-name, not to mention Anna Lucia, Mr. Ecko, and of course, Nicki and Paulo. Miles pointed them out last episode and made it sound like everyone knew that they were buried alive. How do they know that? Did Miles sense that. If so, no one seemed shocked when he said it.
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/24/2010 8:23:51 PM
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I was bothered by "good guy" Jacob's saying that the MiB (the devil) believes that all people are inherently sinful but he (Jacob) is there to prove him wrong. I really hope Jacob isn't supposed to be some Christ-like figure.
I don't think so, he said he can't forgive sin.
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/24/2010 8:23:55 PM
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Darlton has said in their podcast that not all questions are going to be answered. I still want to know what the whispers mean and a few little things like that. I don't trust that Jacob is the good guy yet. Would a good guy bring people to an island just to prove a point and all those people end up dead? How did MIB get banished to the island in the first place? I suspect and hope that that question will be answered!!!
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/24/2010 9:06:38 PM
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I was bothered by "good guy" Jacob's saying that the MiB (the devil) believes that all people are inherently sinful but he (Jacob) is there to prove him wrong. I really hope Jacob isn't supposed to be some Christ-like figure.
"Lost" is turning out the be "The Howling Man" episode of the original "Twilight Zone".
I don't see them going for a strong Christian message. This is still Hollywood, don't forget. The cork in the bottle seems to be key.
I agree with you. I was a bit disappointed, but hey, this is the dominant "religion" within our society right now - "many paths lead to God" "I'm ok, you're ok" " "everything is relative, there is goodness inside of you ..." If anything, the message is a lot more New Agey and humanistic than Christian. Can't expect something different there - not so much because it is Hollywood - because I do believe that there are Christians there - but because that truly is the tenor of our society. But, having come out of that myself and at one time having believed that Christianity was a myth on par with other religious myths, I recognize the grappling with spiritual issues that is taking place. I find it curious that this same theme is popping on other shows and movies - from "V" to "Flash Forward" to "2012" and more. I'm not sure if the rise in popularity of these issues has something to do with the fact that the population is getting older and people are contemplating their own mortality or if people are reading the signs of the times and are asking themselves tough questions. Seeing these shows kind of reminds of how I feel when I walk through the Physics section of Borders or Barnes and Nobles and see the many books that try to define God mathematically or scientifically. Everyone knows there is a God - because the knowledge of Him is written in our hearts and in creation. Yet, so many do not know Him - like the people in Paul's day who gazed on the area reserved for "The Unknown God" in the book of Acts. Of course, no matter what it is, the fact that people are asking questions could mean that God might be drawing people. The way I see this is, these shows can serve as vehicles to help us share about Christ. I also think this would serve as an excellent way for people who profess to be Christians to really examine what they believe - many unknowingly wrap "New Age" concepts in Christian terms.
I also agree that the cork in the bottle is the key - that it serves as the metaphor - that the island is a type of hell where the devil - or the personification of evil dwells. There is a consistency here with the Bible that evil exists as a supernatural entitity - that it does not just exist in the human heart. The concept of choosing good or evil is there as well. Also, the concept of demonic posession and the idea that people can commit evil acts because they are under the influence of a supernatural force is biblical. Even mental illness - the idea that some forms of mental illness can be caused by demons (Claire) while others might be more natural (Hurley) is scriptural as well. And of course, the concept of everlasting life is there as well.
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/25/2010 1:10:27 AM
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I also agree that the cork in the bottle is the key - that it serves as the metaphor - that the island is a type of hell where the devil - or the personification of evil dwells. There is a consistency here with the Bible that evil exists as a supernatural entitity - that it does not just exist in the human heart. The concept of choosing good or evil is there as well. Also, the concept of demonic posession and the idea that people can commit evil acts because they are under the influence of a supernatural force is biblical. Even mental illness - the idea that some forms of mental illness can be caused by demons (Claire) while others might be more natural (Hurley) is scriptural as well. And of course, the concept of everlasting life is there as well.
Wow, RGod! Those are really insightful analogies. I hadn't thought of that.
One thing that's interesting is that they keep comparing a lush tropical island to hell. Not saying the analogy doesn't hold, because they've obviously suggested that in the show, but just that it's an interesting choice for "hell."
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/25/2010 12:52:06 PM
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Guess Widmore isn't working with MIB since he is installing pillons.
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/25/2010 3:43:41 PM
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I also agree that the cork in the bottle is the key - that it serves as the metaphor - that the island is a type of hell where the devil - or the personification of evil dwells. There is a consistency here with the Bible that evil exists as a supernatural entity - that it does not just exist in the human heart. The concept of choosing good or evil is there as well. Also, the concept of demonic possession and the idea that people can commit evil acts because they are under the influence of a supernatural force is biblical. Even mental illness - the idea that some forms of mental illness can be caused by demons (Claire) while others might be more natural (Hurley) is scriptural as well. And of course, the concept of everlasting life is there as well.
Wow, RGod! Those are really insightful analogies. I hadn't thought of that.
One thing that's interesting is that they keep comparing a lush tropical island to hell. Not saying the analogy doesn't hold, because they've obviously suggested that in the show, but just that it's an interesting choice for "hell."
trinigirl722 - that's true. I do find a lush tropical island an interesting setting for "hell." Do you think that maybe it was done to throw us all off track, or for some other reason? Or perhaps it really isn't hell but some other place?
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RE: Final LOST season starts Feb 2nd - 3/25/2010 4:02:38 PM
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Or maybe there aren't any deep religious meaning at all and it's just a tv show?
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