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Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 12:36:04 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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on AOL News today - (((now remember, mccain was born in Panama, which was not in the contiguous united states but on a military base (does that count as a US citizen???)))). Obama's was verified he was born in Hawaii even though the records are supposed to be confidential. heres some highlights and the link for the whole story.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/03/obamas-birth-certificate-verified/?icid=100214839x1212362406x1200811134
Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
By David Knowles
Nov 3rd 2008 9:32AM
Filed Under:eRepublicans, Barack Obama, John McCain, Breaking News
One of the stranger stories to come out of this year's election was the widely e-mailed claim that Barack Obama was ineligible to run for president because he was not actually born on U.S. soil. Our constitution, you see, requires that our presidents be "natural-born" citizens. John McCain, of course, was born in Panama, though, because that event took place on a U.S. military base, it passes constitutional muster.
Well, on Friday, the Director of Hawaii's Department of Health, Dr. Chimoye Fukino, finally got tired of listening to ridiculous chorus coming from McCain/Palin supporters and he went to personally inspect the original birth certificate.
Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
"Therefore, I as Director for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures, Fukino said.
Will this satisfy the skeptics out there in McCain-land? Of course not. I mean, really, Chimoye Fukino? What kind of name is that? Sounds even worse than Barack Hussein Obama. No, no, they'll tell you. Something's fishy. Isn't it suspect that Obama's grandmother just happened to break her hip and get sick just as this latest in a seemingly never-ending series of bogus lawsuits was running its course? No, something nefarious is lurking just under the surface. If it takes the Palin/McCain mob the next eight years to find it, by golly, they will.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 12:43:31 PM
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on AOL News today - (((now remember, mccain was born in Panama, which was not in the contiguous united states but on a military base (does that count as a US citizen???)))).
To even feel the need to question whether a child born on a military base to an active duty military family is a citizen is disgusting and an affront to all of our men and women who dutifully serve all over the world.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 12:57:23 PM
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i really do not know if that qualifies. And you are taking this personally, I am not questioning the whole armed services, just mccain.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:04:12 PM
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i really do not know if that qualifies. And you are taking this personally, I am not questioning the whole armed services, just mccain.
You are questioning whether a person born to ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY parents on a military base is a citizen. Our men in women in uniform voluntarily join and fight for us and are often required to be overseas and you have the audacity to question their childrens citizenship.
You could have made your point about his birth certificate without tossing in the offhanded comments about McCain.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:04:20 PM
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i really do not know if that qualifies. And you are taking this personally, I am not questioning the whole armed services, just mccain.
OK...so if anyone else was born to American citizens on an overseas military base, that's OK, but it's not OK in McCain's case?
Ima, perhaps you should have done a little more research before posting that comment?
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:05:57 PM
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ok thank you for clarifying about a person being born on a military base is what kind of citizenship.
however, it appears that obama's questionable by republicans, birth certificate ,, has now been cleared up. He is a US citizen, born in hawaii.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:06:24 PM
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I'll agree that the slap against McCain was a low class cheap shot (c'mon, IMA, you voted for Obama, just say it....).
As for the birth certificate, I've long thought it was a non-issue and wasted valuable time, so can we please let this poor dead horse rest in peace?
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:08:25 PM
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however, it appears that obama's questionable by republicans, birth certificate ,, has now been cleared up. He is a US citizen, born in hawaii.
Actually the authenticity was questioned by a Democrat.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:10:51 PM
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I'll agree that the slap against McCain was a low class cheap shot (c'mon, IMA, you voted for Obama, just say it....).
As for the birth certificate, I've long thought it was a non-issue and wasted valuable time, so can we please let this poor dead horse rest in peace?
no tafkam, i did not vote obama. SURPRISE!!!!
ahhhh by the way, how do you like my new avatar? :)
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:28:48 PM
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She already hinted that she voted for Bob Barr. mary, I still can't believe that you like both Paul Washer and Keith Olberman. Ask yourself this, how would they each respond to the other.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:34:12 PM
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She already hinted that she voted for Bob Barr. mary, I still can't believe that you like both Paul Washer and Keith Olberman. Ask yourself this, how would they each respond to the other.
yes and I even put up my avatar! now that i figured it out,, in a few days i might change it to Paul Washer.
I find Olberman a strong personalty, i think he is funny, and also serious as heck. I like the way each man speaks. they are not afraid to say what is on their truth, rather than be p.c. which tends to make someone wishy washy if they do it too much.
i actualy just started watching MSNBC just in the past month regularly. I dont like it during the day ,, kinda boring. i do enjoy the clips they provide on the absurdity of the election.
paul Washer is one of the best preachers, though if you told him, he would not like as as it would be flattery, however, the way he speaks, and describes lets say something to envision about God, its like I can really see it. So paul Washer is very inspirational and makes me think.
I also like hellfire and brimstone preachers, coz they say things that make my eyes bug out.. and i just like that. I can handle strong preaching, it makes me feel like I am a strong person able to handle strong preaching. which is what every chirstian ought to do - be able to take the strong meat of the Word.
so i guess thats about it and yes i did vote Barr, (I finally admitted it! thats ok, i dont care if you disagree)... he is pro-life and i could not vote my conscience with either mccain or obama, and he was middle of the road. I actually like some of his views and I did not vote for hte LESSER OF TWO EVILS,, I voted for someone that I could actually admire if he got in office.
so there. thats the straight dope from me.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:48:53 PM
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To even feel the need to question whether a child born on a military base to an active duty military family is a citizen is disgusting and an affront to all of our men and women who dutifully serve all over the world.
When you consider that any Hawaiians and Alaskans that may have fought for us in World War 2 and Korea were not eligible to be president because neither of those two areas were states at the times of the mentioned conflicts I don't think the question is outrageous.
For example this is Senator Daniel Inouye's resume from WW 2 and he isn't eligible to be president:
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"Second Lieutenant Daniel K. Inouye distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism in action on 21 April 1945, in the vicinity of San Terenzo, Italy. While attacking a defended ridge guarding an important road junction, Second Lieutenant Inouye skillfully directed his platoon through a hail of automatic weapon and small arms fire, in a swift enveloping movement that resulted in the capture of an artillery and mortar post and brought his men to within 40 yards of the hostile force. Emplaced in bunkers and rock formations, the enemy halted the advance with crossfire from three machine guns. With complete disregard for his personal safety, Second Lieutenant Inouye crawled up the treacherous slope to within five yards of the nearest machine gun and hurled two grenades, destroying the emplacement. Before the enemy could retaliate, he stood up and neutralized a second machine gun nest. Although wounded by a sniper’s bullet, he continued to engage other hostile positions at close range until an exploding grenade shattered his right arm. Despite the intense pain, he refused evacuation and continued to direct his platoon until enemy resistance was broken and his men were again deployed in defensive positions. In the attack, 25 enemy soldiers were killed and eight others captured. By his gallant, aggressive tactics and by his indomitable leadership, Second Lieutenant Inouye enabled his platoon to advance through formidable resistance, and was instrumental in the capture of the ridge. Second Lieutenant Inouye’s extraordinary heroism and devotion to duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of military service and reflect great credit on him, his unit, and the United States Army."[3]
That was from Wiki.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:55:32 PM
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what about the US territories like puerto Rico and Virgin islands...
are they qualified to have someone run for president of USA,, they are territories of the USA.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 1:59:46 PM
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For example this is Senator Daniel Inouye's resume from WW 2 and he isn't eligible to be president:
Wow!
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 2:07:09 PM
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what about the US territories like puerto Rico and Virgin islands...
I may have spoken to quickly on this. : / However to answer your question yes I believe they are. If you are born in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands you are considered an American citizen. Wiki had an interesting list of cases that go along with this.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 2:18:09 PM
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IMA_Christian, What AM I going to do with you! You show SO much promise and you continue to fall just short of that promise. tsk tsk tsk. 
Look at what he said.
Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
So what???? So, there is a birth certificate filed in Hawaii? That STILL does not PROVE that he was born there. It only proves that he was registered there. That's all. Nothing more.
Now, let's examine what she COULD HAVE SAID and did not.
"We have verified that he was born in a Hospital in Hawaii." Nope, didn't say that did she.
"We have seen the attending phsysician's signature for ourselves." Nope, didn't say that either, did she?
It is precisely THAT information that is needed to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii and not just registered in Hawaii. Ya gotta learn to pay attention to the details!!! 
You might make it in the news business; but, only if you worked for your hero Oberman or some other liberal rag that doesn't know how to dig deeper. Remember, details, details, details. Ya gotta learn to pay attention to the details!!! 
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on AOL News today - (((now remember, mccain was born in Panama, which was not in the contiguous united states but on a military base (does that count as a US citizen???)))). Obama's was verified he was born in Hawaii even though the records are supposed to be confidential. heres some highlights and the link for the whole story.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/03/obamas-birth-certificate-verified/?icid=100214839x1212362406x1200811134
Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
By David Knowles
Nov 3rd 2008 9:32AM
Filed Under:eRepublicans, Barack Obama, John McCain, Breaking News
One of the stranger stories to come out of this year's election was the widely e-mailed claim that Barack Obama was ineligible to run for president because he was not actually born on U.S. soil. Our constitution, you see, requires that our presidents be "natural-born" citizens. John McCain, of course, was born in Panama, though, because that event took place on a U.S. military base, it passes constitutional muster.
Well, on Friday, the Director of Hawaii's Department of Health, Dr. Chimoye Fukino, finally got tired of listening to ridiculous chorus coming from McCain/Palin supporters and he went to personally inspect the original birth certificate.
Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
"Therefore, I as Director for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures, Fukino said.
Will this satisfy the skeptics out there in McCain-land? Of course not. I mean, really, Chimoye Fukino? What kind of name is that? Sounds even worse than Barack Hussein Obama. No, no, they'll tell you. Something's fishy. Isn't it suspect that Obama's grandmother just happened to break her hip and get sick just as this latest in a seemingly never-ending series of bogus lawsuits was running its course? No, something nefarious is lurking just under the surface. If it takes the Palin/McCain mob the next eight years to find it, by golly, they will.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 2:20:34 PM
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heya TMeeks! like the song says "Please be patient with me.. God is not thru with me yet"
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 2:22:30 PM
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Uh... That's because we actually have a Constitution, Dan.
If one feels that the three simple qualifications for president aren't fair, then there is a process by which that Constitution can be amended.
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For example this is Senator Daniel Inouye's resume from WW 2 and he isn't eligible to be president:
Wow!
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 2:23:11 PM
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on AOL News today - (((now remember, mccain was born in Panama, which was not in the contiguous united states but on a military base (does that count as a US citizen???)))). Obama's was verified he was born in Hawaii even though the records are supposed to be confidential. heres some highlights and the link for the whole story.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/03/obamas-birth-certificate-verified/?icid=100214839x1212362406x1200811134
Obama's Birth Certificate Verified
By David Knowles
Nov 3rd 2008 9:32AM
Filed Under:eRepublicans, Barack Obama, John McCain, Breaking News
One of the stranger stories to come out of this year's election was the widely e-mailed claim that Barack Obama was ineligible to run for president because he was not actually born on U.S. soil. Our constitution, you see, requires that our presidents be "natural-born" citizens. John McCain, of course, was born in Panama, though, because that event took place on a U.S. military base, it passes constitutional muster.
Well, on Friday, the Director of Hawaii's Department of Health, Dr. Chimoye Fukino, finally got tired of listening to ridiculous chorus coming from McCain/Palin supporters and he went to personally inspect the original birth certificate.
Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
"Therefore, I as Director for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures, Fukino said.
Will this satisfy the skeptics out there in McCain-land? Of course not. I mean, really, Chimoye Fukino? What kind of name is that? Sounds even worse than Barack Hussein Obama. No, no, they'll tell you. Something's fishy. Isn't it suspect that Obama's grandmother just happened to break her hip and get sick just as this latest in a seemingly never-ending series of bogus lawsuits was running its course? No, something nefarious is lurking just under the surface. If it takes the Palin/McCain mob the next eight years to find it, by golly, they will.
Hawai'i is full of democrats
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 2:36:36 PM
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And neither am I!
I still haven't given up, yet. I'm a bit frustrated that it's taking so long; but, hey! I have daughters and they don't always agree with me either. For instance, in talking to them about a Living Will, I found out that they have already been thinking about it. Here's the plan as they described it last night at dinner... for which I paid!
Just before I get REALLY senile, their husbands are going to invite me to go with them on a Mt. Everest climb... assuming that I will croak before reaching the summit. They will then prop me up and let me freeze with my arm in a waving position so that I can wave at all the climbers going up and down for the next century or so and my future progeny can view me with a telescope from time to time.
They think it solves the issue of long-term care costs quite nicely. But, I worry that one of the climbers will go to shake my hand and break off my thumb or my arm or something. So, while I think the solution has merit, I'm NOT SO sure it's the BEST idea. I think we need some more discussion on the aging thing. In the meantime, I'm going to put a little time into trying to determine WHO came up with idea first. There is a little matter of a WILL that might need to be re-addressed!!!
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heya TMeeks! like the song says "Please be patient with me.. God is not thru with me yet"
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 2:58:12 PM
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NOTHING having to do with Constitutional integrity is EVER a waste of time or a non-issue for those of us that understand how critically important our foundational document is to our freedoms.
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I'll agree that the slap against McCain was a low class cheap shot (c'mon, IMA, you voted for Obama, just say it....).
As for the birth certificate, I've long thought it was a non-issue and wasted valuable time, so can we please let this poor dead horse rest in peace?
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 3:40:08 PM
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Amen TM.
I'm afraid the generation today don't have a clue what
the Constitution really says or does.
Obama wants a Court System that totally ignores the Constitution.
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RE: Obama's Birth Cert Verified - 11/3/2008 3:44:46 PM
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All anyone has to do is listen to one of Sean Hannity's "Man On The Street" segments to find how woefully ignorant the general population is, thanx to our government schools.
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Amen TM.
I'm afraid the generation today don't have a clue what
the Constitution really says or does.
Obama wants a Court System that totally ignores the Constitution.
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